How long have you been with CIG?

I've been at CIG for... What day is it? It's the 8th?

It's the 9th.

The 9th. So actually, I can't do the perfect maths, but I've been here for a year and 11 months, and it will be 12 months next month.

And in the industry?

And in the industry, so I've done four and a half years in animated film and then the rest is games. So probably about seven or eight. Is that, hold on. So yeah, something like that. Maybe even nine, maybe even nine.