How big is the VFX team now?

I think it's 21. 21 of us, including production. It's over 20. I think it's 21.

21 people managing the VFX for two games, Star Citizen and Squadron 42.

Two games and the core tech side of it as well.

You get called on for the trailer stuff occasionally?

Not so much these days. But the engine itself, the improvements to the engine and to the effects, per Leo's description of what his guys do.