So how did you, Mark, get started in the industry?

Oh, man. Long story, bro. Long story. I've been in this industry now, I was doing the math last night, about 18 years. Almost 19 years. Got started way back at this little company called Cop Media, which I think you know Todd Porter. Actually, it was Todd Porter and Jerry O'Flaherty. Jerry went on to be the art director on Gears of War, which was awesome. So that's how I got my start, man. I was making a whopping eight bucks an hour, I think.