Will Origin ships in the future follow a similar design to the M80?

I think it really depends on the role and depends on what we want to do with it. Obviously we want an Origin ship to feel like an Origin ship, and I think that's key to it. You see this vehicle lined up against the others, you can see the DNA from it, and that's what we want to keep. It really depends on the role of the ship. If we do more fighters, we might take similar inspirations. If we do more commercial ships, we might not. In the more commercial stuff, we've looked at a lot of yachts, that side of things, whereas, personally, a yacht doesn't feel very combat. So I think there's a lot of range within our manufacturers to experiment with visuals, and I think that's one of the nice things of the game that we work on, that we are able to try new ideas and experiment with new visual ideas.

It's combined two different DNAs. You've got the Origin DNA, and Origin has its own identity, but you wouldn't expect an industrial Origin ship or a combat Origin ship to look the same. You'd expect them to be completely different. This is one of our first times doing a very dedicated, completely only combat-focused Origin ship, and it has a little bit of difference, but it's the same way that a combat Drake ship is a bit different from a combat...

I mean, the 325 is a combat ship, but it's a variant of an existing line, so there's only so much you can do with a variant.

Exactly. The 125 and the M50 have that split of interceptor and racer. But this is a true, dedicated fighter as is.

You see it in real-life automotive manufacturing and aeronautic manufacturing as well, that even though Boeing makes planes, they also make helicopters, and Rolls-Royce makes engines, not just cars.

Mitsubishi makes everything. You're touching on one of my biggest pet peeves here. When people are like, that doesn't look like X manufacturer, or Y manufacturer wouldn't do that, I always go to Mitsubishi. This is the same company that makes tanks, refrigerators, elevators.

I do think it's important to keep some kind of core DNA. When there's a BMW right behind you, you know it's a BMW. There's always these core parts of the DNA of the manufacturer. I think Alberto touched on it perfectly when he was doing the first fly-around, about how Origin always reconnects the lines back around, and that core art direction can be applied to other contexts. There's core rules, and then there's areas to flex those rules.

But even brands evolve over time. In the fiction of our universe, some of these ships, like the Idris and the Javelin, are hundreds of years old. So why would an Aegis ship today look anything like an Idris that was designed 200 years ago? They've got new people. They come in with new ideas, new technologies.

The Zeus Mk I versus the Zeus Mk II is probably the most clear example.

Technically, the Connie folks are flying right now is the Mark IV. You saw that change from the Mark III back in the day. RSI is a great one. You look at the new Aurora. It's not that the old ones never happened. It's that these things evolve.

Within RSI as well, if you look at the Polaris, it's the more military-centered, whereas if you look at things like the Apollo, it's a little bit cleaner and not military. Look at the Connie as well, like the Phoenix. They're very different DNA, but at the same time, they're both very obviously RSI.