How did you both get into QA?

Well, I got into the industry originally working at Blizzard. I worked there for four years and I obtained the level of specialist investigator, and I primarily worked with account administration and compromised account investigations. And then after that, I transitioned into QA by joining the team at Portalarium, Richard Garriott's company. And that's where I would test a poker application, and they also had another game they were working on. And that's where I got my feet wet.

So I actually met Justin, John, and David at Portalarium. That was my very first game industry job. And before that, I used to work at Capital One in the fraud department. I used to stop bad guys.