What did you do for Starship Troopers?

So Starship Troopers. When I left Star Trek, that's definitely a type of universe. It has a lot of design rules that are unique to Star Trek. I get hired on Starship Troopers and they need me to do ships. I did the Roger Young, the landing ships, the rescue boat, the little escape pod. It was their ship, and did set stuff for them and their gear that they wear. And for me, being on that show helped me channel my inner Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, which is like a separate universe from designing Star Trek stuff. And I realized, oh, we can get boxy. Let's get military boxy and chunky, and let's really do it right. That was a pretty wild ride. Paul Verhoeven was a very energetic director.