When it came to you, had they already decided that the cargo was going to sit on the outside of the thing? And did they know that it was going to collapse and expand?

No, that was going to come later. We were trying to come up with kind of an engineered logic of how it was going to be able to hold cargo and what it was going to look like when it was empty and what it would look like fully loaded. And that's when we came across this idea. Maybe we're talking about just this big kind of ship rigging boom that can umbrella open and close depending on how much cargo you need to load.